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Post by blandguitar on Apr 15, 2009 11:11:59 GMT -5
hey guys, i was wondering if you could do a neck through build with a top so you don't have to paint it? i was just wondering if you could do it. also, do neck throughs allow you to do more carved lower horns for better upper fret access?
both my washburn and gibson SG appear to be neck through or set neck style, i think they might be set neck as they have a little bump on the back just a mm or two in depth. is there an easy way to tell neck through from set neck for painted? am i right thinking they are set neck?
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Post by Mayhem Guitars on Apr 15, 2009 11:31:47 GMT -5
Yes, it's possible. Yes you get better access. They have set necks.
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Post by blandguitar on Apr 15, 2009 11:38:30 GMT -5
thanks, is a set neck or neck through easier on the inexperienced builder? i plan on a bolt on for my first build, but for the second one would a set neck be easier or more difficult than a neck through?
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Post by remainsofgoliath on Apr 15, 2009 13:11:06 GMT -5
try to make it a bolt-IN design, it's much more sturdy and has more surface area contact to transfer vibrations.
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Post by Mayhem Guitars on Apr 15, 2009 16:34:47 GMT -5
Neck through is the easiest to build, imho.
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Post by blandguitar on Apr 15, 2009 18:31:56 GMT -5
what's bolt in? is it like a set/bolt combo? and should i do a neck through for my first then?
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Post by guitarcam123 on May 13, 2009 1:13:39 GMT -5
they all have there disadvantages and advantages.
Bolt on: Easiest of the 3, neck and body can be constructed seperatly and all you need to do is bolt it on. You can get better sustain from a bolt compared to a neck through or set neck. Although to get this the neck must be really tight in the pocket (ormsby neck test tight)
Set Neck: Pretty much the same as a bolt on, although carving the heel is different as you have to do a much bigger heel almost the width of the body. You also need to shape the tenon and the neck pocket to be exactly the same so that you can get as much contact. Not as much sustain as a bolt on as it has glue inbetween the neck and body. One of the most favored joints.
Neck Thru: Not the easiest to construct as you have to take twice as many measurements. You either have to get the right width for the wings and cut each wing out and glue them on. Or glue two wings on and cut out the body shape, this is harder as you have to get inside the cutaway without affecting the neck but it is easier to glue together. Cutting out each wing and gluing it on also has a disadvantage, the gluing. How do you clamp a curved body? You need to keep the scraps/ waste and put them back on to clamp, this means you need to cut very accurately with the bandsaw so that the wings can be glued onto the neck. It is believed that set necks get the best sustain. This is not true as they actually have more glue between the neck wood and wings, therefor the vibrations dampen as they go through the glue and into the next piece of wood. Neck thrus also favor the neck tone because of this and the fact that the strings are touching the same type of wood. Another disadvantage is the ability to put the body through the planer/ thicknesser after gluing the neck on, so you need to have everything perfect before gluing.
Everyone has their own opinoin but it think that the order of easiest to hardest is: Bolt on, Set Neck, Neck Thru.
neck thrus in a way allow you to get bigger cutaways because you can cut as far in as you want because the neck goes all the way through.
But you don't need a big cutaway for fret access and you can get an equal amount of fret access with a bolt on or set neck.
to answer your original question, when you do a neck thru with a carved top you either have to make the body wings and neck timber skinnier than usually to make room for the top, or have a extra thick Kyle Harper guitar
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