CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 19:03:01 GMT -5
If you don't feel comfortable talking about it, screw you Atheist here. Now someone disagree with my views so we can get some debate or something going. Or completely agree to keep the peace. GO!
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Post by blandguitar on Mar 18, 2009 19:19:56 GMT -5
im a christian
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 19:24:51 GMT -5
im catholic christian.
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Post by unherolike on Mar 18, 2009 19:25:43 GMT -5
I don't concider myself to be Atheist but I don't belive in anything but i do belive in facts. So that all i got to say.
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 19:27:16 GMT -5
so you dont believe in no god, but you dont believe in god at the same time....??
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 19:29:35 GMT -5
I feel that if there was an all powerful god who created us all and makes "miracles" happen, this world wouldn't be such a dying shithole.
It's like believing in the flying spaghetti monster.
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 19:30:55 GMT -5
oh God please dont bring that thing into here.....
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 19:35:49 GMT -5
I'm not going to use it anymore, I just needed to reference something.
..It's like believing a giant man stands in the clouds and listens to all half a billion christians prayers and meddles with the lives/has a plan for all 6.7 billion human's lives.
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 19:37:17 GMT -5
thats the protestant view, which is why im catholic. catholics believe that God created us and cares about us, but gave us free will, and we can do whatever, be it evil as f*** or abosolutly great.
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 19:45:17 GMT -5
Do you love god even though two days ago a man tried to kill himself(in style) by jumping over Niagara Falls and lived, though a woman(Liam Neeson's wife) fell two feet on a bunny slope and died?
I'm absolutely positive thousands of people were praying for her and nobody prayed for the guy. What happened there?
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Post by Mayhem Guitars on Mar 18, 2009 19:58:09 GMT -5
i'll sticky this, just dont let it get out of hand chuck
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 20:01:21 GMT -5
If it gets to personal attacks, I'll fix the shit or close it. I don't plan on that happening though, I think we can have an adult discussion.
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Post by Mayhem Guitars on Mar 18, 2009 20:04:46 GMT -5
Alright, sounds good,
As far as me, I really dont know. I would like to say i believe in god, but I'm also not sure.
How boring haha
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 20:20:23 GMT -5
the term for that is agnostic (spelling?), bobby.
love is also mistranslated, there are like 6 or 7 greek words that are translated love. the "love" for God basically means dont disobey his laws, which are pretty moral anyway...violent tendencies aside, is murder okay, in anyone's eyes??
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 20:30:00 GMT -5
Not at all. I believe that is a human feeling coming from the brain, which has nothing to do with god.
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Post by angusjimikeith on Mar 18, 2009 20:33:37 GMT -5
no it doesnt have to do with god. thats the whole free will thing.
and brian is not god. you might want to spell check that before he sees it and makes us worship him ....no facepalm smiley anymore???
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Post by Mayhem Guitars on Mar 18, 2009 20:35:15 GMT -5
depends on what skin, i have to set smileys for each one. Takes forever to do, im lazy.
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 18, 2009 20:35:27 GMT -5
Lol@spelling mistake. I spell brain wrong all the time.
I guess the free will thing is cool, but do you ever actually expect anything when you pray?
And do you believe in heaven/hell/salvation etc?
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Post by unherolike on Mar 19, 2009 1:35:31 GMT -5
The best religion is the Matrix........ hey it could be true couldn't it? CHUCK do you want the RED pill or the BLUE pill.
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Post by ripbonham on Mar 19, 2009 8:58:01 GMT -5
technically catholic. worship led zeppelin anybody hear about this jedi religion starting up?
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Post by remainsofgoliath on Mar 19, 2009 9:33:15 GMT -5
To me, religion is just another excuse for war.
There's nothing that religion can't do for you that you can't do for yourself.
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Post by jccustomcases on Mar 19, 2009 15:12:18 GMT -5
To me, religion is just another excuse for war. There's nothing that religion can't do for you that you can't do for yourself. Yea, I personally don't believe in religion, and have always seen at as something that was made up to do, because nobody had things to do thousands of years ago. Although I don't mind other people who observe a religion, I HATE Christians who are so over the top, their actually up their asses. Just my two cents.
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Post by unherolike on Mar 19, 2009 15:25:53 GMT -5
See I can tolerate half-ass Christians the ones that don't go to church often or pray every chance they get. I just hate the ones that get in your face and start hounding you about Jesus and the talks go something like this.
Jesus Freak: "Hey have you accepted Jesus Christ into your life?" Me: "Get the F**K away from me" Jesus Freak"Don't you want to hear about how he can save your eternal soul" Me:" No I already sold my soul for a ham sandwich get away from me" Jesus Freak: "Its okay if you don't love him he loves you even though you won't admit you love him" Me: "GO AWAY"
Then somewhere along the lines I drop the how do you and your Jesus friends explain Dinosaurs and Space and HOW THE F**K A "ALMIGHTY GOD" CREATED EVERYTHING IN 6 DAYS........bomb on them.
Edit: Then I also go into detail about the string theory and the ideas of Quantum machanics.........they normally walk away at that point.
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CHUCK
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Post by CHUCK on Mar 19, 2009 19:58:07 GMT -5
Loving Jake, JC, and Unherolike.
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Post by zakkwyldefan on Mar 20, 2009 22:20:22 GMT -5
To me, religion is just another excuse for war. There's nothing that religion can't do for you that you can't do for yourself. I agree man. Some people take things way too seriously.
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Post by unherolike on Mar 20, 2009 22:22:19 GMT -5
The main reason we will never control any one in the mid east..........RELIGOUS NUT JOBs.
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Post by blandguitar on Apr 13, 2010 19:22:52 GMT -5
I'm Christian, as I already stated; But I feel there is more than one path to God. Who the hell am I to condemn someone because they were raised muslim just as I was Christian? If fact, I'd say there are a lot of people whom are more likely to get into heaven than some "good Christian" folk. For instance, a couple summers ago, I worked at a shop, I took the job understanding I'd work Sunday mornings, my mum and her husband were looking for a new church, but they apparently felt they were above going to a church were a youth minister had hired a teenager to work Sundays. That's just bullshit, over the top Christians who sit there and attempt to force their religion on everyone whom doesn't meet their standards are probably more condemned that those whom they are trying to convince to be Christians in the first place.
I do think that freewill is one of the best things God has given us. I also feel that children are the one true miracle that occur everyday. Children are perfect when they enter this world, half of the time their parents let them throw a pissfit and get everything they ever stomp their feet for. I don't see how pediphiles and psychos that go on killing rampages aren't hardly punished, but if someone beats their kids to keep them inline they are considered bad parents.
Not all muslims are nut jobs, the nut jobs just did the same thing as Hitler, promised a prosperous and vengeful path, Soviets should have stayed the fuck out way back when, and we shouldn't have given the Taliban weapons. I'd bet my last dime that 90% of non-extremists like America, most of them just want to get the fuck out of the way of the bullets.
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